ЖОКР-тред - 7

[Замдежурного]

Женского одиночного (фигурного) катания России тред

В связи с тем, что обсуждения представительниц ЖОКР сильнее всего вызывают бурные дискуссии и срачи, мы коллегиально ради общего блага решили сделать под это отдельный тред, где аноны смогут обсуждать новости, скандалы, интриги, расследования, сплетни и прочие инсайды. Главное условие - никакого хейта! (см. правила)

Обсуждения женщин-одиночниц других стран, мужского, парного ФК, танцев на льду, других видов спорта по-прежнему проходят в Олимпиадотреде. Также в нем можно будет обсуждать прокаты, контенты и результаты соревнований ЖОКР, но только во время проведения соревнований.

Краткие правила треда*
1. Запрещены хейт и агрессивные выпады в сторону любых реальных людей, упоминаемых в теме, в том числе:
- обсуждения внешности в негативном ключе,
- негативные пожелания (проиграть, поломаться, убиться и т.д.),
- коверканье имен, использование обидных прозвищ и аббревиатур.

2. Под кат нужно убирать:
- фото, картинки,
- встроенное видео,
- ответы на подкатные цитаты,
- длинные цитаты из интервью.

3. Запрещены сообщения, нарушающие правила Дайри, в частности:
- оскорбления других пользователей сайта;
- оскорбления кого-либо на почве политических или религиозных взглядов, национальности, этнической принадлежности, физических отклонений, в том числе и в форме сатиры, любые попытки разжигания вражды, призывы к насилию над кем-либо.
- спам;
- публикация контента +18 (визуал постить нельзя, ссылки на контент надо подписывать, тексты под кат и подписывать)

4. Запрещен злостный оффтоп, а именно:
- длительное и бескатное обсуждение посторонних тем;
- обсуждение спортсменов, не связанных с ЖОКР, или вне контекста ЖОКР (для этого есть основной Олимпиадотред).
- цитирование и обсуждение посторонних ресурсов (исключения: новости и интервью с других сайтов)

*толкование правил - на усмотрение модераторов.

Предыдущие треды: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6.

@темы: ЖОКР-тред

Comments

[Гость]

А если талант получил тяжелую травму?
И? Откуда ты знаешь, какой там талант, если он не раскрылся? И при чем здесь плачи по пандемии и загубленным карьерам?

Да из-за того же карантина у скольких талантов карьера пойдет прахом.

[Гость]

О счастливом возвращении блудной дочери:



Zhenya also talked about her first day being back. She said she was nervous at first, but that quickly went away, the enviroment was positive and she could quickly adjust. The coaches started working with her immediately.
More to find in the magazine.

[Гость]

Медведева

When all the ice rinks in Ontario, Canada, closed in March, Evgenia Medvedeva was in a quandary. With a show in Japan scheduled for the end of June, in which she had the starring role, she needed to be in shape. Concerned that international borders would close in response to the growing threat of the COVID-19 pandemic, she made the decision to go to Japan in early April. But, when the rinks in Ontario slowly reopened in the early days of summer, Medvedeva found herself unable to return to Canada as the country’s borders were closed to all but essential travelers. She returned to Russia in early July and began training at the CSKA Club under the watchful eye of Elena Buianova and Tatiana Tarasova, with Brian Orser giving her lessons remotely three times a week. Neither Medvedeva nor Orser believed that would be a workable situation long term. “When the quarantine was announced in Canada, it was still calm in Japan,”Medvedeva recalled. “I consulted with Brian and the Japanese people who were running the show, and we came to the decision that it would be better if I went to Japan early. At the time, it did not have a quarantine, but I stayed indoors for two weeks voluntarily.”Though the show was cancelled a couple of weeks later, Medvedeva remained in Japan. “In the end, my mom and I were there for three months. I love the country and the food, but it is difficult for Europeans if you are there for a very long time,”she said. Medvedeva and Orser connected every day online so he could monitor her training, but problems with the Internet connection proved to be a challenge. “It was still better than nothing. We were doing our best, but it was a bit awkward.”In mid-September, Medvedeva presented her new programs at the annual Russian test skates. She admitted feeling a little awkward and sad to step onto the ice alone. She and Orser communicated during the practice sessions and immediately after her performances, which he watched from Toronto via a cell phone hook up. Neither the short nor the long program went well. Medvedeva, who has been bothered by a chronic back injury for a long time, did not appear to be prepared given the mistakes she made. Though she was pleased with how she presented the short program, she said she was unable to prepare for the free skate “for several reasons.”

[Гость]

Медведева

“Nevertheless, I decided to go out and skate a full program, but I left out some elements. I need to get into physical shape. I am not worried about the jumps because I know I will get them.”The day following the test skates, Medvedeva announced she had made the decision to return to her former coach Eteri Tutberidze. The move was unexpected and particularly surprising given their acrimonious split following the 2018 Olympic Winter Games. In the lead-up to those Olympics, Medvedeva was the favorite for gold, but a right foot injury in late 2017 kept her off the ice for a few weeks and severely limited her training time. Instead, it was Tutberidze’s young protégé Alina Zagitova who edged Medvedeva for gold in PyeongChang. “Following the test skates, Eteri and I met and had a talk,”Medvedeva told IFS in an exclusive interview. “We had a long chat, but we didn’t talk about the past. We were just looking at the present and eventually we agreed to collaborate. We will work hard and we will set good results as our goals.”Medvedeva informed Orser about her decision before it became public and said he “completely understood and supported me. We are still on good terms, which is important for a coaching change.”The following day, she had her first practice at the Khrustalni ice rink. Medvedeva said she immediately felt at home in her former training venue and that the environment was “positive and on a good wave.”“Not much has changed. Obviously, I was nervous for the first few minutes —after all, I had spent many years in that rink and a lot of memories are connected to it. But I got used to everything again very quickly. I know that ice rink so well that I could find my way around it with my eyes closed. It was an easy adjustment and the coaches started working with me right away.”Both of her programs, which were crafted by Canadian choreographers, look promising and have a lot of potential. Jeffrey Buttle choreographed the short to Aram Khachaturian’s “Waltz Masquerade.”“I was lucky that I was able to get my programs done before the pandemic really hit. I had already started to skate the short program at the Cricket Club with Jeffrey,”Medvedeva said. “It wasn’t the very first time I had worked with him. At a Japanese show, I had a solo number and I asked him for help because I had random music and a random costume and I was like, ‘I’m not going to do this alone.’“We really liked working together, it was so much fun. At that time I was still skating in Moscow, so I was curious to work with him again because I saw all the really good programs that he made for Yuzuru (Hanyu) for example. “The program is set to Russian music. I am Russian and in a perfect world it is Russian music, Russian skater and Russian choreographer —but this is so different because he is a Canadian choreographer.”In early March, she went to California to work with Bourne on a new long program. (Bourne had choreographed her successful “Memoirs of a Geisha”routine the previous season). “I was searching for music that I could skate to, something that is not really popular but at the same time something everyone knows. I came up with ‘Alegria.’It is the perfect match for me,”said Medvedeva of the theme piece for the Cirque du Soleil show of the same name. “I am kind of surprised because not a lot of skaters have used this music. But it sounds amazing. There are lots of things that are very interesting. I am sure that the audience will love it. “I went to Shae-Lynn with some interesting stuff that I wanted to see in my program. We spent a week working on it three hours every day. We listened to the music and we saw the image of the program, the color of the costume and we thought of some interesting movements. We built the program around interesting stuff. It is really unusual for me; the music and the image are unusual, and the costume will be even more unusual. I’m so excited. When Medvedeva left Canada the program was not quite finished and during her time at CSKA, Tarasova made some suggestions and helped to create the program’s final pose. “The beginning is the start of a story and it should be bright, and the final position should be even brighter,”Medvedeva explained.

[Гость]

Медведева

Away from the ice, she recently went back to an old hobby —drawing —and also discovered a new one —music. “I paid for an online class for water color drawing. I am kind of busy now, but I can use it whenever I want,”she said. For her birthday, her best friend Kristian Kostkov bought Medvedeva an iPad for drawing, which she now uses all the time, and recently opened an Instagram account to display her artwork. The Moscow native also recently decided to explore her musical talents and took up the ukulele. She said she is surrounded by a lot of musicians including Kostkov, who she described as a “great musician. He is a singer and plays lots of instruments. I started to draw because of him. I showed him one of my drawings that I did on paper and it looked really bad. But he said, ‘You have potential, you need to keep doing this.’“I just found out for myself that my whole life I was really jealous of people who could make beautiful sounds because I love music and I am always listening to it,”Medvedeva said with a laugh. “No matter if a person is playing an instrument or singing, it is amazing. I told myself that one day I will learn and a few weeks ago, I was like ‘Why one day? I want to start today.’So on my day off I went to the music store and I bought a ukulele and started playing it. “It is small, cute and really easy. There are only four strings and it has a small grip for my small hand. I am getting better. Sometimes it is hard because the co-ordination is different. I can always co-ordinate my body, but not my fingers, especially the left hand.”She has also enlisted a music teacher that she occasionally takes lessons from to learn how to properly play the instrument. Medvedeva recently launched her own line of merchandise, which includes T-shirts, sweatshirts and all kinds of accessories. “It sounds like I’m really doing a lot of stuff in my life,”the 20-year-old said. “To be honest, I am not the one who is doing the merchandising. I have an agent and lots of designers that are helping me. We have a series with images that were drawn by me, but not all. Professional artists did some of the drawings. “I am always sending them my feedback about whether I am OK or not OK with a design, but my agent is the bigger part of this and we have been releasing new stuff. I like strict, classic designs and I just made the name for the brand ‘Evgenia Medvedeva,’written in a really interesting font and underlined.” When asked what her hopes are for this season, the two-time World champion replied, “That it just happens! It is right that competitions are taking place and it is also right that there are some competitions without spectators. Currently the federations are trying to find ways, and we should support them in this. And then I really want that people stay healthy and not get sick. Therefore, people should not disregard quarantine measures even when your favorite skater is on the ice.” In early October, Medvedeva’s back injury flared up once again. This time she was hospitalized to undergo a medical examination. “Old back problems made themselves felt at the most inopportune moment. I hoped the injections would help dull the pain, but to no avail. You need to fight the cause, not the effect.

[Гость]

Ору
Из-за перебоев с интернетом пришлось уехать из Японии. Европейцам там жить нелегко

[Гость]

Не надо носить простыни, достаточно дать ссыль.
А если уж носите, то хотя бы под кат.

[Гость]

Орги позвали и тут же отменили шоу. По своей инициативе две недели карантинила в Японии. Ну не человек, а легенда!

[Гость]

There are only four strings and it has a small grip for my small hand.

[Гость]

Орги позвали и тут же отменили шоу

Она хоть сама понимает, что говорит...

[Гость]

Она хоть сама понимает, что говорит...

Мне про карантин в Японии больше понравилось. Героиня ты наша

[Гость]

At the time, it did not have a quarantine, but I stayed indoors for two weeks voluntarily

Вот же врет и не краснеет.

[Гость]

Вот же врет и не краснеет.

Вот именно. И на самоизоляции должна была быть, и дома не сидела, а шастала по префектурам.

[Гость]

Она хоть сама понимает, что говорит...

Понимает. "Европейцам в Японии нелегко"

[Гость]

Медведева и Орсер каждый день выходили на связь в сети, чтобы он мог следить за ее тренировками, но перебои с подключением к Интернету оказались проблемой.

А Орсер говорил, что 3-4 раза в неделю по часу. И про перебои молчал.

[Гость]

Алина здесь похожа на тренера и модель

[Гость]

Алина здесь похожа на тренера и модель
Спасибо фотошопу.
А вот здесь спасибо фотошопу от фанатов Косторной

а вот здесь натюрэль

[Гость]

Это кому ЖМ такое "содержательное вью дала?". Про педагога по музыке тоже врет, не правильно зажимает лады и многое другое.

[Гость]

АЗ поздравила своих тренеров с Днем тренера.

[Гость]

Это кому ЖМ такое "содержательное вью дала?".
Фладе, кому еще.

[Гость]

Спасибо фотошопу.
В каком месте там фотошоп? Алине фотошоп не нужен, если фото качественное.

[Гость]

В каком месте там фотошоп? Алине фотошоп не нужен
Да никому из юных дев он не нужен, однако все пользуются.

[Гость]

Они и без фш все очень красивые

[Гость]

Они и без фш все очень красивые
Да обычные они все, какое там очень красивые. Но юные, свежие, этим фш только лет 10 себе добавляют.

[Гость]

Да обычные они все, какое там очень красивые
Не знаю даже, я таких обычных каждый день на улицах не вижу. Как по мне, очень многие наши фигуристки именно красивые, многие как минимум симпатичные. Уж Алина и Алёна так точно очень красивые, это даже на видео видно, без фотошопа и фильтров

[Гость]

Да никому из юных дев он не нужен, однако все пользуются.
Ну это фото от фотографа, они фотошопом не занимаются.

[Гость]

У Алены под глазами кавардак.

[Гость]

Ну это фото от фотографа, они фотошопом не занимаются
Повеселил)

[Гость]

Уж Алина и Алёна так точно очень красивые
Уга, особенно Косторная. Я бы ее даже симпатичной не назвал. Тяжелые черты лица, глаза навыкате. Не, она даже не среднестатистическая, как Загитова. Мейк, конечно, обеих улучшает, но без него они выглядят более чем обычно.

[Гость]

А вот фотошоп от фанатов Медведевой