Олимпиадотред-57

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ИЛЛЮСТРАЦИИ

Хави




Джонни




Маччи




Козука




Адьян




Саша




Риппон


Аарон




Ламбьель




Жубер

Вопрос: Лучшая попа ФК (не считая поп Макса, Юзу, Орсера и Пуха)

1. попа Хави		10	(12.2%)
2. попа Джонни		9	(10.98%)
3. попа Маччи		13	(15.85%)
4. попа Козуки		8	(9.76%)
5. попа Адьяна		8	(9.76%)
6. попа Саши		3	(3.66%)
7. попа Риппона		4	(4.88%)
8. попа Аарона		8	(9.76%)
9. попа Ламбьеля		11	(13.41%)
10. попа Жубера		8	(9.76%)
Всего:		82

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Comments

[Гость]

Подборка диалогов про КП СА 12


Skate America 2012, КП+ПП, мужчины
КП - с 9 страницы
10-20-2012, 05:51 PM #133
let`s talk
I agree that Hanyu was terribly overscored while Taka was underscored. The difference between them should be not more than 3-4 points maximum. I don't get why for practically the same executed combo Hanyu got higher GOE than Taka. Also, his spins, being on better level than Taka's, were done slower and less impressive. Their step-segs as if of different levels is just a joke. As for the second mark, how good that they both performed eagles. Says a lot who is who in edges and SS. Taka's SP was elegant, emotional and mature. While Hanyu looked like a teen kid who were left home alone, found daddy's booze and decided to experiment with his elder brother's guitar, until social service knocked the door. The pace they chose for Hanyu is hillarious, it makes him look ridiculous and pathetic. Also, such an unfair score can alienate people against Yuzu, which is not the fate I would want for him.

10-20-2012, 06:00 PM #136
plushyfan
He was a little bit overscored, because Hanyu's coach is Orser. Don't you think? But I don't think the overscoring would harm Yuzu. People love him, they like what he is doing, thus adore his points. Unlike Chan. I believe, Kozuka's problem is the zero expressivity.

10-20-2012, 06:26 PM #137
giulia95
you couldn't have said it better!!
I totally agree with you!
Crazy beautiful jumps, slow impersonal spins and an inadequate SP!
a lot of wasted talent.
But Canadian influence has already started
Wonderful Taka!

lakeside
now sexy blues well!

10-20-2012, 08:27 PM #144
let`s talk
No, I don't get it. They arrested Sretenskij for being "sexy" to a minor. But Yuzu doing a sexy porn teen is just fine.

10-20-2012, 08:35 PM #146
Buttercup
are you sure you know what porn is? And not just "I know it when I see it"?

10-20-2012, 08:36 PM #147
ImaginaryPogue
Yeah, and the attempt to equate what Hanyu is doing to what Sretenski was alleged to have done is despicable.

10-20-2012, 08:41 PM #148
Buttercup
That, too. I posted first and Googled later - at first I thought it was a mangled version of Sandusky. Which would have been repulsive as well.

10-20-2012, 08:44 PM #149
let`s talk
Surely not. I am barely out of dipers. On a serious note, I have no idea what you know by the term "porn". In its traditional sense porn stands for the easy portrayal of sexual subject matter, precisely what Hanyu team have been doing with his image since the moment he moved to Canada. I find it hypocritical to approve a teen as a sexual object in one field and find it as a criminally wrong in another.

10-20-2012, 08:33 PM #145
Kalina
About Hanyu: last season people were saying that he was being underscored in PCS especially in the short, where he was getting around 39+. Now his skating skills are way better than they were before, he's more polished, he's world bronze medalist (so, his reputation grows) and he had an outstanding skate, probably the cleanest SP he's ever done: he obviously gets higher components marks. Now, how much higher do I think they should be? Well he was getting high 7s and 8s in skating skills last year, so considering his improvement I'd say a 8.5 isn't absurd at all, and his transitions are great. Performance was almost perfect. Choreography and interpretation -- rounded up to the other PCS, but that happens with just about everybody. So, is 43 too high? By a point, maybe. But what really made the difference in this score is the change in the rules, and the fact that he had a 3A and the combo in the second part of the program. And that all of his jumps were clean as a whistle and very impressive, with transitions in and out of them, same with his spins. So, huge technical score, and huge score overall.

Is this program better than Daisuke's record-breaking program last year? Performance wise, no. Technically, they're close. But this two programs were judged under different rules, so let's talk, as a Daisuke fan, you shouldn't worry too much. If Daisuke skates clean and makes good use of the rules with two jumps in the second half, he's sure to beat the record again, and maybe reach 100. Kozuka being underscored in the PCS department on the other hand, is true and a sad fact.

What I find funny (and not surprising in the least, I was waiting for this actually) is that for some of 'his' fans Hanyu was good enough as soon as he was, you know, young, cute, crazy talented but still lower ranked than their real favourites (Daisuke, Kozuka). They raved, saying that he was the future of japanese men's figure skating. Now he's still young, but he dares to change his coach voluntarily and choose a foreign one, he dares to keep getting better and to have a smartly choreographed program and break Daisuke's record even though the fact that he did doesn't mean much, and he becomes rubbish, non-expressive, ridiculous. Well, did you think he was going to be standing still, holding his Pooh bear waiting until Daisuke and Kozuka both retire? Which doesn't mean that he's now better than they are, it just means that he's better than he was last year and thankfully, it shows in his scores. Kozuka isn't as lucky, but I don't see why someone else besides the judges should be blamed for this.


10-20-2012, 08:57 PM #150
let`s talk
We all know that. The rules are changing constantly, so the score in fs is not like WR in track and fields. That's why Plu at Moscow Worlds sitting in C sector gave the gesture "doesn't matter" to his wife when Chan's records score showed up. Because it is indeed doesn't matter in term of ISU moody reality. So, the way that you brought Dai here looks rather petty. Then you should have brought Plu as well since let's talk is a diehard-fan of both. In my post I was talking only about SA and this particular progs of two skaters- Kozu and Hanyu. Carry on.

Li'Kitsu
Kalina, thanks for your post, I agree with everything you said. Sometimes some figure skating fans just seem like such drama-loving chatterboxes - like one good performance means you're as good as world champion, one bad one and you're pretty much done. World records don't really mean much, every event is scored differently. If I remember correctly, Daisukes 94-points record performance was said to not deserve so many points by many people too (and if I'm honest, I had to agree).

10-20-2012, 09:20 PM #155
let`s talk
In fact Kalina was the one who brought Dai 94-points here. A "drama-loving chatterbox" as you put it. Never mind.

10-20-2012, 09:52 PM #158
Li'Kitsu
But who mentioned Dai's program till now or even first isn't the point. And if she wouldn't have mentioned it at all, I would have still wrote the same - because how people are argueing that Yuzurus score is too high reminded me pretty much of some reactions at WTT. I don't see a problem with comparing Yuzurus performance to Dai's or anything. What I meant with "drama-loving chatterboxes" is how people just love to overreact and jugde to fast. But that's a very general thing... look at how the russian girls are hyped, talked down, hyped again... let alone what you can read about Adelina sometimes is worthy to grind your teeth.

[Гость]

Подборка диалогов про КП СА 12


Skate America 2012, КП+ПП, мужчины
КП - с 9 страницы
10-20-2012, 05:51 PM #133
let`s talk
I agree that Hanyu was terribly overscored while Taka was underscored. The difference between them should be not more than 3-4 points maximum. I don't get why for practically the same executed combo Hanyu got higher GOE than Taka. Also, his spins, being on better level than Taka's, were done slower and less impressive. Their step-segs as if of different levels is just a joke. As for the second mark, how good that they both performed eagles. Says a lot who is who in edges and SS. Taka's SP was elegant, emotional and mature. While Hanyu looked like a teen kid who were left home alone, found daddy's booze and decided to experiment with his elder brother's guitar, until social service knocked the door. The pace they chose for Hanyu is hillarious, it makes him look ridiculous and pathetic. Also, such an unfair score can alienate people against Yuzu, which is not the fate I would want for him.

10-20-2012, 06:00 PM #136
plushyfan
He was a little bit overscored, because Hanyu's coach is Orser. Don't you think? But I don't think the overscoring would harm Yuzu. People love him, they like what he is doing, thus adore his points. Unlike Chan. I believe, Kozuka's problem is the zero expressivity.

10-20-2012, 06:26 PM #137
giulia95
you couldn't have said it better!!
I totally agree with you!
Crazy beautiful jumps, slow impersonal spins and an inadequate SP!
a lot of wasted talent.
But Canadian influence has already started
Wonderful Taka!

lakeside
now sexy blues well!

10-20-2012, 08:27 PM #144
let`s talk
No, I don't get it. They arrested Sretenskij for being "sexy" to a minor. But Yuzu doing a sexy porn teen is just fine.

10-20-2012, 08:35 PM #146
Buttercup
are you sure you know what porn is? And not just "I know it when I see it"?

10-20-2012, 08:36 PM #147
ImaginaryPogue
Yeah, and the attempt to equate what Hanyu is doing to what Sretenski was alleged to have done is despicable.

10-20-2012, 08:41 PM #148
Buttercup
That, too. I posted first and Googled later - at first I thought it was a mangled version of Sandusky. Which would have been repulsive as well.

10-20-2012, 08:44 PM #149
let`s talk
Surely not. I am barely out of dipers. On a serious note, I have no idea what you know by the term "porn". In its traditional sense porn stands for the easy portrayal of sexual subject matter, precisely what Hanyu team have been doing with his image since the moment he moved to Canada. I find it hypocritical to approve a teen as a sexual object in one field and find it as a criminally wrong in another.

10-20-2012, 08:33 PM #145
Kalina
About Hanyu: last season people were saying that he was being underscored in PCS especially in the short, where he was getting around 39+. Now his skating skills are way better than they were before, he's more polished, he's world bronze medalist (so, his reputation grows) and he had an outstanding skate, probably the cleanest SP he's ever done: he obviously gets higher components marks. Now, how much higher do I think they should be? Well he was getting high 7s and 8s in skating skills last year, so considering his improvement I'd say a 8.5 isn't absurd at all, and his transitions are great. Performance was almost perfect. Choreography and interpretation -- rounded up to the other PCS, but that happens with just about everybody. So, is 43 too high? By a point, maybe. But what really made the difference in this score is the change in the rules, and the fact that he had a 3A and the combo in the second part of the program. And that all of his jumps were clean as a whistle and very impressive, with transitions in and out of them, same with his spins. So, huge technical score, and huge score overall.

Is this program better than Daisuke's record-breaking program last year? Performance wise, no. Technically, they're close. But this two programs were judged under different rules, so let's talk, as a Daisuke fan, you shouldn't worry too much. If Daisuke skates clean and makes good use of the rules with two jumps in the second half, he's sure to beat the record again, and maybe reach 100. Kozuka being underscored in the PCS department on the other hand, is true and a sad fact.

What I find funny (and not surprising in the least, I was waiting for this actually) is that for some of 'his' fans Hanyu was good enough as soon as he was, you know, young, cute, crazy talented but still lower ranked than their real favourites (Daisuke, Kozuka). They raved, saying that he was the future of japanese men's figure skating. Now he's still young, but he dares to change his coach voluntarily and choose a foreign one, he dares to keep getting better and to have a smartly choreographed program and break Daisuke's record even though the fact that he did doesn't mean much, and he becomes rubbish, non-expressive, ridiculous. Well, did you think he was going to be standing still, holding his Pooh bear waiting until Daisuke and Kozuka both retire? Which doesn't mean that he's now better than they are, it just means that he's better than he was last year and thankfully, it shows in his scores. Kozuka isn't as lucky, but I don't see why someone else besides the judges should be blamed for this.


10-20-2012, 08:57 PM #150
let`s talk
We all know that. The rules are changing constantly, so the score in fs is not like WR in track and fields. That's why Plu at Moscow Worlds sitting in C sector gave the gesture "doesn't matter" to his wife when Chan's records score showed up. Because it is indeed doesn't matter in term of ISU moody reality. So, the way that you brought Dai here looks rather petty. Then you should have brought Plu as well since let's talk is a diehard-fan of both. In my post I was talking only about SA and this particular progs of two skaters- Kozu and Hanyu. Carry on.

Li'Kitsu
Kalina, thanks for your post, I agree with everything you said. Sometimes some figure skating fans just seem like such drama-loving chatterboxes - like one good performance means you're as good as world champion, one bad one and you're pretty much done. World records don't really mean much, every event is scored differently. If I remember correctly, Daisukes 94-points record performance was said to not deserve so many points by many people too (and if I'm honest, I had to agree).

10-20-2012, 09:20 PM #155
let`s talk
In fact Kalina was the one who brought Dai 94-points here. A "drama-loving chatterbox" as you put it. Never mind.

10-20-2012, 09:52 PM #158
Li'Kitsu
But who mentioned Dai's program till now or even first isn't the point. And if she wouldn't have mentioned it at all, I would have still wrote the same - because how people are argueing that Yuzurus score is too high reminded me pretty much of some reactions at WTT. I don't see a problem with comparing Yuzurus performance to Dai's or anything. What I meant with "drama-loving chatterboxes" is how people just love to overreact and jugde to fast. But that's a very general thing... look at how the russian girls are hyped, talked down, hyped again... let alone what you can read about Adelina sometimes is worthy to grind your teeth.

[Гость]

Мнение очевидца про КП (Ms. P)


10-20-2012, 10:26 PM #159
Mrs. P
Here's my report from the competition late last night just in case you missed it:

Hey everybody I just returned my hotel room after checking out the men's and pairs sp live tonight. Some thoughts.

For me the three Japanese men really brought it tonight. Machida was charismatic and skated a solid program despite not having a quad. He did a beautiful triple axel right in front of my section. And he did a great job expressing himself to the music. I think he took some tips from the Daisuke playbook!

I loved Taka's program. It had that quiet elegance perfect for his fluid performance. And I was so happy he hit all the elements especially after all the reports of bad practices. It was such a delight to see his soft knees in person. TV does not do that quality justice.

And Hanyu. Let me tell you, it was amazing to see it live. From the warmup you could see it in his eyes he was ready to bring it. He had a really high quality program. He hit all the jumps perfectly with beautiful transitions and at amazing speed. He got a standing o when he was done.

Do I think he was overscored? Maybe by a few points, but, he really presented a challenging program and I don't think he could have done it any better. I remember liking it when I saw the Finlandia video, but I loved it after seeing it live and seeing the intensity and energy Yuzuru put into the program.

Brian Orser ended up in the table next to me at the hotel bar so we end up striking a conversation. He was not surprised at Yuzuru's performance. He talked about how both sp and fs are very challenging for Hanyu, and that he has been working with Hanyu to do more run thoughs. He said that when he first met with Hanyu, he learned that he did not skate as much daily as someone wanting to be top caliblier competition should. But he pointed out that Yuzuru has been a gentleman, respectful and willing to learn. I think we all saw the fruit of that tonight.

He was surprised by the score. He said based on his performance tonight compared to Finlandia, he expected a score more in the high 80's.

On a lighter note, the topic of the Pooh tissue box came up and he said, "When he was not my student I used to make fun of that. Now I have to hold it." He said this in a good natured way. We all laughed.

Bad night for both the Czechs. I liked Verner's program, despite the mistakes, there were things to appreciate. Brenzia's program did not do much for me, especially since. He made those mistakes despite not having a lot of transitions. His PCS was way too high for what he actually did.

Mensnov program was decent considering that I was expecting to be disappointed by a Piña clone. His 4T-3T combo was solid. Majorov was Ok - nothing really stood out.

I enjoyed Jeremy's program, he did a good job performing it! But his tech was not there; I've definitely seen him do a 3A much better. And he's had issues getting spins levels in the past, so the low TES did not surprise me. Armin had a respectable performance. I think he was hurt by being in the first group and a last minute replacement -- he wasn't even in the event program! I think he should have been ahead of Brenzina.

Anyway, it was a real treat to be there!
As for Taka vs Yuzuru: Yuzuru deserves the lead. I LOVED both programs, Yuzuru jumps were huge, clean and came out of some awesome transitions Taka did the jumps, but wasn't whistle clean on all of them, so the TES gap is not surprising and deserved. As for PCS, I agree Taka was underscored. But Hanyu definitely had this energy. I don't know how to explain it, but it just oozed out of him. He came ready to perform. He got a standing O the moment he was done. I'm sure that contributed to the higher score.

So I think perhaps I'd have Yuzuru winning in PCS by a point instead of nearly four -so a 92 vs. 88 with the lead mostly in TES.

[Гость]

у меня тоже сомнения, это надо быть совсем десятируким аки кришна и повернутым на всю голову, успевать следить за своими ботами и там, и сям, свихнуться можно ) В точку, анон))

так а балин, как можно переключаться с этой истерии на в меру адекватные посты на голдене (сейчас), да и не позариться на сколки Юлия/Аделина там же и что-нибудь в мягком переплете, чтобы не забанили/не было большого резананса, вбросить?) это кажется нереальным с точки зрения её псих. портрета, так сказать))) противоположные черты характера.
да и админам/модерам голдена же насрать, "даша" ли это с какого-то "спортса" или нет, зачем так упарываться с конспирацией, не ради дежурки ведь?)))

Она пишет что-нибудь в твиттере на японском. Потом ее же бот пишет на голдене, что слышала от японцев такую-то инфу, потом Дарья на спортсе пишет "вот! даже японцы и иностранцы с голдена считают так-то, значит, я права, что... " Очень удобно

если это так, то удивительно, конечно. я не столько в отвращении, сколько в восхищении неком))

[Гость]

Мнение очевидца про КП (Ms. P)

спасибо. дама это очень приятная, в целом. она недавно упоминала этот прокат Юзу, кстати, если ничего не путаю.

"When he was not my student I used to make fun of that. Now I have to hold it."

ы.

[Гость]

Топ-10 ЧЯ - группы крови

и вот откуда это люди знают? я свою-то группу крови недавно узнала)))

[Гость]

Аня будет новую показалку сегодня катать!

[Гость]

так а балин, как можно переключаться с этой истерии на в меру адекватные посты на голдене (сейчас), да и не позариться на сколки Юлия/Аделина там же и что-нибудь в мягком переплете, чтобы не забанили/не было большого резананса, вбросить?) это кажется нереальным с точки зрения её псих. портрета, так сказать))) противоположные черты характера.

А где там сейчас в меру адекватные посты на голдене?
По содержанию то же самое, просто она научилась выражать это в более вежливой форме, чем раньше (чтоб не забанили).
Человек не нормален, ты ищешь логики?

да и админам/модерам голдена же насрать, "даша" ли это с какого-то "спортса" или нет, зачем так упарываться с конспирацией, не ради дежурки ведь?)))

Ты про что, я не поняла? Админам насрать на Дашу со спортса, главное, чтобы у них на форуме не гадили, поэтому ботов они удаляют, когда те распоясываются.

А Даше невыгодно светить своих ботов с голдена, потому что иначе как она будет ссылаться на мнение "иностранцев"?

если это так, то удивительно, конечно. я не столько в отвращении, сколько в восхищении неком))

Ну да, выворачивать, что черное-это белое, она умеет в совершенстве. Видимо, и правда юрист (хотя работать по специальности в Японии она точно не может - там юристы закрытая каста по сути)

[Гость]

Ох, как же жалко, что Юзу на показательных не будет ((((((((((((((

[Гость]

и вот откуда это люди знают? я свою-то группу крови недавно узнала)))

Анон, в Японии группа крови примерно как у нас знак Зодиака, популярное средство типировать по характеру. Поэтому все знают, это во всех дурацких анкетах бывает наряду с любимым цветом и любимой едой.

[Гость]

и вот откуда это люди знают?

А в Японии это не секрет, там к ней отношение примерно как у нас к знаку зодиака)

[Гость]

и вот откуда это люди знают? я свою-то группу крови недавно узнала)))

В Японии большое внимание группам крови уделяют, считается что от них характер зависит, поэтому про знаменитостей обычно известно, какая у них группа ))

[Гость]

Мнение очевидца про КП (Ms. P)

Спасибо, что притащил!
Разговор с Орсером очень интересный, поржал над словами про Пуха

[Гость]

Подборка диалогов про КП СА 12

я ничего не понимаю больше, шта происходит. я читала посты этого же юзера времен финала этого гран-при, и там был сочувствующий адекват(целиком напускное, что ли? зачем, лол), а на этапе вот эти вбросы(спасибо, анон, что поделился)
нет, я решительно не понимаю ни-че-го))))

[Гость]

читала посты этого же юзера времен финала этого гран-при, и там был сочувствующий адекват(целиком напускное, что ли? зачем, лол),

Может она курс лечения в период между этапами и финалом прошла

[Гость]

Прочитала диалог про Сретенского и программу Юзуру, выпала в осадок. Действительно, как можно арестовывать за приставание к несовершеннолетним и при этом разрешать несовершеннолетним секси-произвольные катать...

[Гость]

Треды про НЧК, тут тоже много
(НЧК было до ЧЯ, так что бомбить стало раньше)

КП
www.goldenskate.com/forum/showthread.php?38887-...

apple123
Seriously, your guys saw Dai's and Hanyu's programs, and you think a wannabe deserved the same PCS as the real thing?

11-23-2012, 08:42 PM #93
let`s talk
Well, not all guys are into real thinigs. That's why the world has Haute Couture and jeans, Cuisine and food, gems and bijouterie, etc. Choosing some lousy blue, especially after Dai's Blues, was indeed the most mocking thing for Yuzu that Orser&Co could come up with. And in case of Hanyu this ridiculous mimicker policy of some manga level wasn't necessary at all since the kid is talanted enough to have his own IT-factor as last season proved. In PCS Hanyu was overscored, the same as in SA, while in fact his components should be closer to Javi. But in the first mark he was considerably better than Dai today and therefore should have won SP anyway, just with a lesser score. I am sure Dai himself and his fans like myself don't want him to win with mistakes over a better skated guy. I'll leave this privilege of misery to the ubers of another skater. In the interview to NHK Dai said that he made some mistakes and didn't skate his potential. Tomorrow he will do his best, he said. While Yuzu on the question about the score said that Orser told him Yuzu had been training more than before (in Sendai) and that's why he can beat Takahashi. Eh? Orser spoke about Dai and no Javi, who actually sends him paycheck too? If the coach doesn't consider Javi as Yuzu's rival, then what the Spanish is supposed to do I wonder. He was so lonely in K&C. Also, baby Yuzu, no need to repeat some stupid things on camera, even if your coach told them to you. It's possible to get famous overnight, it's even more possible to lose people's love way faster. Follow your seniors' example and you'll be fine.
Voronov was a little underscored I guess. Judges probably don't like that hangover-ed sailor-on-leave dancing in yesterday's shirt.



ПП, тут много))

www.goldenskate.com/forum/showthread.php?38910-...

[Гость]

А в Японии это не секрет, там к ней отношение примерно как у нас к знаку зодиака)

ясно, а то я знаю только про диеты по группе крови)))

[Гость]

(НЧК было до ЧЯ, так что бомбить стало раньше)

ему вроде до сих пор припоминают слова с пресски после КП на том НЧК

[Гость]

я читала посты этого же юзера времен финала этого гран-при, и там был сочувствующий адекват(целиком напускное, что ли? зачем, лол),

Ммм, тот финал выиграл Дайс.
Наверно, она была уверена, что после финала ФГП Дайс без проблем выиграет ЧЯ, и немного успокоилась


В Финале главным гадом был Чан)
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12-08-2012, 12:24 AM #58
let`s talk
Meh,..
That old Goe/Pcs scam- give as high GOE as possible for what he could do and PCS will add the last touch. 2-3 combo doesn't count. Chan's PCS higer than Dai's, especially for PE and IN, is more than foolish. Some skating machine that is trying to be meaningful and therefore brings only the feeling of irony. And the Mister Performer who is worshipped by crowds. I also disagree with Kozuka's PCS that are lower than Hanyu's. Taka should be 3rd now, not Hanyu who shouldn't have been scored over 8s in PCS in the first place. At least now it became 100% clear- Hanyuflation was a trick to somehow decredit other guys from Team Japan, those who are for real capable to make competition for Chan in Sochi besides Plu- first of all Dai, and Kozuka. When Chan was on the ice- they showed Yuzu his place.
Current ISU is the stupidest sport organization ever that is doing whatever it can to kich this sport out of Olympics. And doing very well.

bellafurr
Whatever you say, lol

12-08-2012, 01:20 AM #63
let`s talk
Me? Go on twitter and search 'chanflation'. You wish I were the only one who is talking.

12-08-2012, 02:14 AM #84
wallylutz
Not any different than if I type "flat Earth" into Google, I'd find a lot of people, even a whole association of people who are convinced that Earth is really flat too.

12-08-2012, 03:43 PM #108
let`s talk
Great to see that you are so desperate to google for "flat earth" in order to make a "point". Actually, I somehow understand and pity you. True. Patrick said that Plu is like a royalty in Russia. By this he admitted that he is a nobody in his home country. Not a surprise that his fans are so angry that the only "humour" that they could come up with is to dismiss public opinion. The result is well-known: low popularity of this sport. Well-done work, guys! The only thing that I don't understadn is why ISU keeps doing everything they could to make things ever worser than they already are. For the sake of self-admitted "Mr. Nobody"? Oh, well. That's funny indeed.

figuristka
I really enjoyed the commentary of the British commentator's during Patrick's performance.

12-08-2012, 04:53 PM #110
let`s talk
Not any different than if I type "flat Earth" into Google, I'd find a lot of people, even a whole association of people who are convinced that Earth is really flat too.
PS. Pardon, dear figuristka. But this ^ stupid argument orginally came from Chan uber mouth.


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mylastduchess View Post
Takahashi made the same amount of mistakes as Chan yet his pcs is well deserved?

12-09-2012, 12:15 AM #136
let`s talk
Then maybe you should go to school, together with Patrick, learn some math and how to count. And why are you complaining about PCS anyway if PC still shamefully got the highest PCS? Or you are saying that he should have got 10 and Dai 7, or what? The only one who has the right to complian here is Javi and his fans. He was the one who was robbed by PCS scam for Chan who shouldn't be on the podium at all.

evangeline
It is tragic that the judges prefer this to Blues for Klook.....sadly this will probably compel Daisuke to stay with Morozov.

12-09-2012, 12:15 AM #136
let`s talk
I agree with you on this one. But look at it with the skater's eyes. The judges were dumb enough not to get Blues, one of the best masterpieces ever in Men skating. And they were surely more open for some cliches that their "intelligence" could comprehend. I somehow would understand the skater in such situation.

Bartek
I guess that the change of that terrible costume has helped a lot.

12-09-2012, 12:15 AM #136
let`s talk
At first I was partly disappointed that I won't see his perfect torso that that coloful stuff highlighted greatly. But that blacky black outfit made him look almost demonic, more like a ballet than opera. The mesmerized audience was terribly quiet watching him and started shouting only at the end.

Asahi showed a backstage video after the final, Yuzu kneeled with congratulatiosn for Dai in a traditional manner while Dai was sitting on the chair doing his boots stuff.
GREAT DAY for Team Japan! I hope this ice will be lucky for you a year later too!!!!!!

let`s talk
He also said:
“I remember when I came last in my first Grand Prix final,” Patrick Chan was reminiscing the other night. “I thought, geez, who remembers who won the Grand Prix final anyway? Nobody remembers. People only remember who won the Olympic Games and the world championships.”


12-11-2012, 12:07 AM #241
Buttercup
He's right - except he was last in his second GPF, not his first. But casual fans certainly don't remember and even serious fans might need to consult Wikipedia. Can you name every winner in every discipline going back to Patrick's first GPF (2007-8) - without help from Wikipedia or other sources? I couldn't.

And really, he was so young then, it sounds like he was just trying to cheer himself up. Not everything Patrick Chan says needs to be turned into a controversy.


12-11-2012, 07:58 AM #254
figuristka
I noticed let's talk you keep going out of your way to find anything about Patrick which may upset you personally. I must say i adore Dai and Yuzuru. I love the sport and fall in love with their skating also. I could never imagine looking for anything they say or do that might upset me and going against them just because they are Patrick's competiton. Even for Joubert or Plushenko who may have upset people in the past, i don't hold anything against them. I appreciate what is good about them. Patrick does seem to care about what other's think about him. No every skater is everyone's cup of of tea but they should all be appreciated for their hard work and talent.

Mathman
Sadly, the simple truth. Only I would add Worlds and the Olympics to the list of competitions that no one remembers except the participants.

12-11-2012, 10:58 PM #257
let`s talk
No way. There is no truth in it, so it's not sadly. Great champions are always remembered, their GPF wins simply count together with their other wins. Of course there are those GPF winners, even Worlds winner and a few Olympic winners who got easily forgotten, or if they get brought up, then usually in not good way (SLC, Vancouver, etc.).

12-12-2012, 05:11 AM #259
Mathman
Well, I tested myself to see how many Olympic gold medalists I could remember, counting back from 2010. (OK, so I am not Imaginary Pogue). I got ladies and men back to 1984, pairs back to 2010 (sorry Totmianina and Marinen), and dance back to 2002.

[Гость]

ему вроде до сих пор припоминают слова с пресски после КП на том НЧК

А что за слова, расскажите, плиз?
анон-ньюфаг)

[Гость]

А где там сейчас в меру адекватные посты на голдене?
По содержанию то же самое, просто она научилась выражать это в более вежливой форме, чем раньше (чтоб не забанили). Человек не нормален, ты ищешь логики?

там должно было быть *[в меру] НЕадекватные
я пытаюсь объяснить это, опираясь на свои (скудные) "познания" в психологии, и не могу это увязать вообще) в моем представлении/мирке ты либо способен совладать с собой и хитропланить, либо нет ->сл-но, метаешь говно одноuj и того же толка, постоянно повторяясь. как эти противоположные характеристики могут сочетаться в одном живом человеке - это я пытаюсь уяснить для себя) дело даже не в НСФ, просто шаблон трещит

Ты про что, я не поняла? Админам насрать на Дашу со спортса, главное, чтобы у них на форуме не гадили, поэтому ботов они удаляют, когда те распоясываются.

я про то, что зачем ей на голдене ограничивать себя опусканием Юзуру. или до Юльки просто не добралась еще/на голдене этот слеш(Сотникова/Липницкая) как таковой не существует/всем насрать и не будет реакции?

[Гость]

Двукратные олимпийские чемпионы Татьяна Волосожар и Максим Траньков включены в число запасных для участия в чемпионате Европы, чтобы у них была возможность выступить на чемпионате мира, речь о выступлении фигуристов на чемпионате Европы не идет, сообщила агентству "Р-Спорт" тренер пары Нина Мозер. rsport.ru/figure_skating/20141228/796934633.htm...

как все-таки все интересно с этими списками...

[Гость]

Ммм, тот финал выиграл Дайс.

а, точняк, спасибо. даты внимательнее надо было смотреть, сорри

[Гость]

Юзу снялся с гала ЧЯ ((((

Я как чувствовала вчера, он за живот держался, когда со льда еще уходил((( А на сорванном вращении мне как-то поплохело аж(
Здоровья тебе Юзу, хорошо подлечись и отдохни!

[Гость]

Не, все равно дымилось бы.

так не вы ли(аноны в целом) говорили, что она его одобряла/симпатизировала ему, а съехала с катушек как раз после победы?

[Гость]

А на сорванном вращении мне как-то поплохело аж(

На вращении Юзуру коньком попал в выбоину и потерял баланс из-за этого, он сам это сказал. Пересмотри видео - убедишься.

[Гость]

я про то, что зачем ей на голдене ограничивать себя опусканием Юзуру. или до Юльки просто не добралась еще/на голдене этот слеш(Сотникова/Липницкая) как таковой не существует/всем насрать и не будет реакции?

На голдене не очень в курсе наших внутрироссийских дел, кто-то даже наивно ждет, что Юлю могут послать на ЧЕ или типа того
Так что устроить "Адель против Юли", как на спорте, у ней не получится.
Если она начнет писать про квартиру (любимая ее тема), тоже не сильно поймут. И потом, писать это в фанфесте нельзя (негатив к скейтеру), а в соревновательных тредах опасно - офтоп, плюс заденешь Сотникову - придут фанаты Юны, коих там много Юля еще и поддержку получит))

я пытаюсь объяснить это, опираясь на свои (скудные) "познания" в психологии, и не могу это увязать вообще) в моем представлении/мирке ты либо способен совладать с собой и хитропланить, либо нет ->сл-но, метаешь говно одноuj и того же толка, постоянно повторяясь. как эти противоположные характеристики могут сочетаться в одном живом человеке - это я пытаюсь уяснить для себя) дело даже не в НСФ, просто шаблон трещит

Жаль, я не психотерапевт, такой богатый материал для анализа

[Гость]

Я как чувствовала вчера, он за живот держался, когда со льда еще уходил((( А на сорванном вращении мне как-то поплохело аж(

У меня всю дорогу было, что ему больно кататься
Все-таки, стальная воля у него.
Пусть лечится!

[Гость]

На вращении Юзуру коньком попал в выбоину и потерял баланс из-за этого, он сам это сказал. Пересмотри видео - убедишься.

Успокоил, анон) Ну, это я сейчас спокойно пересматривать могу, а вчера, когда не знаешь, что произошло. Короче, я слишком эмоциональная))) Но живот сразу бросился в глаза, потому я боялась и как-то предчувствовала, что снимется. Пофиг на гала, лишь бы здоров был